Friday, February 09, 2007

MC CAIN, SCHUMER PIMP ISP SPYING LAW

If there was any doubt remaining about John McCain's loyalty to the Forces of Darkness, they were probably erased this week when he and Chuck Schumer marshalled the support of great legal minds like Miss America and badass-wannabe/police whore John Walsh to support a bill that would require internet service providers monitor virtually every keystroke made by subscribers.
The proposed bill, The Securing Adolescents from Exploitation-Online Act, would require service providers to scan all email, downloads, uploads, instant messages and other transmissions for language or images that may involve minors in provocative or sexual situtations or poses.
While the purported intent of this bill may be righteous, there are concerns about its actual use, as our government has repeatedly demonstrated a propensity to misapply and abuse laws that are meant to protect the people.... First they scan for child pornography, then "terrorists," then run-of-the-mill petty criminals, and soon enough, anyone who opposes intrusive government policies... After all, what good would the technology be if it can't be abused.

26 comments:

Historical Wit said...

What? You didn't think this wasn't coming?

Historical Wit said...

Actually I have been researching how to survive independently because of this.

And the safe bet is the Arctic, game on boys, game on. But since your running from political monsters, I'll see you on the way up cause when I move it will be for good. Ain't comingback, hell this might be sea floor for all we know.

Still this bill aint about survival, its about data. Its all about data mining these days. Metrosexual dudes looking at the numbers in your life to figure out what your doing with your spare time. Nice huh? Its the only way those geeks are going to be the predator.

RAT said...

Dick,
going to Canada propable won't help, what with the First Shrub's effort to a new country called the North American Union. You need to pay attention to this.... it's not the ravings of Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists lobby. This is real.

RAT said...

Yeah JC, but the fact is that he was nobody until he shot to fame on the rocket that was his son's brutal kidnapping and murder. Then he allowed himself to me whored out by the FBI and law enforcement community for their own public -relations ends. Now he stands in the basement of the Hoover building, wears a leather jacket and talks tough while habbing his fingers at the audience and making a LOT of money.... I think that makes him a whore.

RAT said...

he chose to do what he's doing and he's smart enough to know how it looks.

Joel Todd said...

Mr. Cake:

This is an unfair and inaccurate post. However, to refer to Mr. Walsh as a "media whore" is just plain unfair. I went to law school in South Florida where Adam Walsh was kidnapped and murdered. I was in law school at the time Adam was kidnapped. It was almost impossible to go to any store in the area without seeing a picture of Adam with a baseball bat on his shoulder and his two missing front teeth. He was a cute kid and we all hoped he would be found alive. As you know, all that was ever found of Adam was his head. John Walsh, between the time Adam was kidnapped until the head was found, was forced into the media spotlight. Obviously he would have preferred to have stayed out of the public light, coached poor Adam in little league, and gone on with his successful life building high end luxury hotels. Circumstances, however, dictated otherwise.

Somebody had to represent the Walsh family and urge the public to help find poor Adam. John took the lead and did a tremendous job talking to the public on the evening news each night. I remember watching this grieving father on the news each night and thinking he was a natural.

Unfortunately, Adam was dead and when his head was found, it would have been easy for John Walsh to quietly fade away, grieve silently, and go on with his life. The public, or the media, kept going back to John. He decided to use his new found fame as a tool to protect other children and to solve other crimes.

Since that day in 1981, John has dedicated himself to fighting on behalf of children and all crime victims. As a result, thousands of victims have found justice, and dozens of abducted children have been safely brought home.

For whatever reason, the Adam Walsh case assisted in waking up the nation to the evils of child predators.

John and Revé Walsh's experience taught them that the nation was in desperate need of leadership in the fight to protect children, and they decided to create something positive out of their personal tragedy. From the ad hoc organization they put together to help with the search for Adam, they established the Adam Walsh Child Resource Center, which eventually merged with the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC), which they co-founded in 1984. The NCMEC provides invaluable resources to parents, children and law enforcement in the United States and internationally. The charity consistently receives an A+ rating for its ability to spend more than 90 cents of every dollar raised on programming. Its incredible public/private partnerships keep the NCMEC as a leading example of a highly respected and effective non-profit.

The NCMEC is a fantastic agency which, in addition to helping find missing and exploited children, trains police, prosecutors and judges how to investigate, prosecute, and bring to justice, child predators. I personally have been to training at NCMEC and it is some of the best training I have ever had.

Now, as to the bill about which you complain, I think you either misunderstood it or misrepresented it. The bill holds as follows: “Whoever, while engaged in providing an electronic communication service to the public through a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce, obtains actual knowledge of any facts or circumstances … as soon as reasonably possible, make a report of such fact or circumstances to the CyberTipline of the NCMEC, or its successor”
The bill does not require the ISPs look for such facts or circumstances, but if they happen to come across such information, they are required to report it. There is very little difference between this law and the current law in Maryland which requires teaches and other child care professionals, not to look for evidence of child abuse, but if they happen to encounter it, to report that information to the authorities.
I understand we must guard against too much government intrusion, but this is a worthy law designed to protect victims of child predators who are unable to help themselves.

RAT said...

Mr Todd... I'm honored by your presence. With that said; you're wrong on this point.
But let's not misunderstand one another, sir. I have no problem with Walsh's chosen line of work. On some level, I'd even say it admirable. But I do have a problem with his attitude - he comes like one of those yappy, furry football-sided dogs so loved by little old ladies... you know the kind.... overly aggressive and just begging to be punted into the neighbor's yard. So it is with John Walsh, dressing up in leather, gesticulating like he's some badass gangster, and asuming a threatening tone.... as if he's the one going out on the street a capturing homicidal maniacs. He's not. And having grown up on the street meself, I'm quite certain that if he ever had to come eyeball to eyeball with some of the people he ridicules and calls names from the safety of his broadcast studio, he's piss himself. He's a wannabe badass and I seriously doubt he's ever had to stand up for himself in a physical confrontation. Ever. To my mind, that makes him a fraud, a frontman for the real badasses with badges- in short, a cop whore.
As to the incalulable he and his ex-wife suffered, I'm truly sorry for that and as one who suffered similar treatment when I was a child, I hold no sympathy for any monster who would commit such an atrocity. Those people cannot be changed. Punishment won't change their sexual preferences and psychopathology any more than imprisonment, threats and torture would chnage your sexual preference. As long as sexual predators and sadists are alive, they are a clear and present danger to society.
And don't make the mistake, sir, of believing that if the _so-called victim survives and the perpetrator is jailed, then everything turns out well. It doesn't. I had to start living on the street when I was 14 years old. I'm in my 50s now and still being treated for post-traumatic stress.
And so, while I whole heartedly support preventing child predation, I oppose this proposed bill - especially in light of the fact that, by your own estimation, there is already similar legislation in place.
In fact, I suppose this proposal could offer a modicum of additional protection, but as someone who has been in law enforcement for a lonf time, I'm sure you can cite instances where a law enacted to serve one purpose is later perverted to use in another it's authors had not forseen or intended.
And so it is with this piece of legislative slop. As I mentioned in the original post: First they scan for child pornography, then terrorists, then run-of-the-mill petty criminals, and soon enough, anyone who opposes intrusive government policies... After all, what good would the technology be if it can't be abused.

swampcritter2 said...

Well RT, A Joel Todd post no less. Looks like you could be right.They're paying attention to you already. I tried to warn you about that Abbie Hoffman pic. The don't like that kind of thing y'know. Well look...uhm... I gotta go now. Hey see you in 5-10, Jeb Bush will probably be president then. Ciao.

Worcester said...

Turd, you've been outed by name on http://duvalies.blogspot.com/

truthiness said...

I go outta town for a week and here's what I come back to.

Rat, you are the type who will never admit you are wrong, even in the face of evidence.

Not once in your response to Mr. Todd do you actually address his points. That's probably because you lack the education, legal expertise, experience and brain power to debate the issue with him.

Who are you to call John Walsh a whore? What have you done to reduce crime in our nation or even in your community?

How do you know how John Walsh would be in a confrontation? And what does it matter? How do we know that you wouldn't piss yourself in a confrontation? What does it matter?

Who cares if he wears a leather jacket and acts like a badass? Why is that important to you?

What is important is what's he's accomplished. He's actually making a positive difference in the world instead of hiding behind a computer and bashing people he's never met.

You sound like you've had a hard life and have misplaced anger issues, so maybe more intensive therapy is in order. If you indeed suffered the abuse you claim then you should be sympathetic to someone like Walsh. But you're still alive while his son is dead, so you can't compare experiences at all.

Why don't you go back to bashing Bush? He deserves it and your'e actually good at that. Bashing a sympathetic and heroic figure like John Walsh just makes you look like a jealous, pathetic bully.

RAT said...

Indrid:
I care about all that stuff because his handlers - the law enforcement community - are pimping him as proxy, a front, to make to themsevles appear to be tough invincible crime-fighters.
I care because I'm supposed to care. His public personna is a fascade crafted by handlers and meant to appeal to, play on and ratchet up the fears of the citizenry. Aside from that, I have this fuzzy memory of some clip I saw wherein Walsh is/was runing for some elected office in Delaware.... and that might help explain the charge by JT and others to rush to his defense.
Finally, I have no argument with how others may worship John Walsh's image.... to each his own. But by that same token, I have expressed my perspective and neither you, nor JT nor anyone else is likely to change my mind.

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Worcester:
.... And he would be wrong.... hehehehehe

RAT said...

Swampy:
I told you that cops read this blog.... don't worry, they're not after you. They're just compiling a government enemies list for the New World Order. .... Nothing will happen until next year's false flag terrorist attack, when The Fearless Leader declares martial law.

truthiness said...

Walsh didn't run for office in Delaware or anywhere else. What he did was a political ad for one of the candidates running for attorney general in Delaware.

RAT said...

I stand corrected

RAT said...

More to the point, it is specifically design to circumvent the protections against unreasonable search and seizure by government agents in the U.S. Constitution.

RAT said...

Outbackshithouse:
SO good have you back. I figured after you suffered such a horrible forensic defeat, common sense and decency would have driven you back to your montana shack to obsessively replay our last encounter over and over again in your head while plotting a reprisal that would never be acted upon. It's nice that you've stopped taking your medicine.... gives me someone to kick around the blogosphere, and the police more time to track you.... Now that the greetings, salutations and nicities are completed, let's turn to your latest dimwitted, although pleasingly maniacal, missive, wherein, as usual, you missed an important support graf, specifically, the part that reads: "....I have no problem with Walsh's chosen line of work. On some level, I'd even say it admirable. But I do have a problem with his attitude - he comes like one of those yappy, furry football-sided dogs so loved by little old ladies... you know the kind.... overly aggressive and just begging to be punted into the neighbor's yard. So it is with John Walsh, dressing up in leather, gesticulating like he's some badass gangster, and asuming a threatening tone.... as if he's the one going out on the street a capturing homicidal maniacs. He's not...."
Which means, among other things, that your entire comment was a waste of perfectly good band-width.
Nevertheless, I'll atempt to explain the other reason your supposition was wrong when you posited that
"Because a person has a desire to fight crime and has not stood up for themselves before in a physical confrontation, therefore that person's efforts to fight crime are disingenuous and fraudulent."
As you can plainly see, that's not what I said. My objection to Walsh's act is that he acts "as if he's the one going out on the street a capturing homicidal maniacs. He's not...." And, he talks, acts and maybe even pretends in his own mind that he's some kind of Elliott Ness badass from the safety of a secure TV studio.
Now let's turn to yur second incorrect supposition:
"We should similarly regard all law enforcement secretaries, call takers, and persons holding desk jobs who have not previously stood up for themselves in a physical confrontation then, too. Right?"
Here the would be no. because those people don't get of national TV every week and pretend to be something they aren't.And that's the difference, Mr. House.... I'm sure you see the error in your thinking, right?

RAT said...

oh... so you don't understand.... it's really not such a suprise.... Maybe if you ask your adult guardian to explain it to you...

RAT said...

Thanks Dick. You got the message across using words that I am not so inclined to use.

RAT said...

Outbackshithouse:
To begin at the end, let me say I did not write tat, Dick did. That said, I agree with him to every degree of his comment.
Second, and here we address the high-school thing, My Space is two words, not one. Further, it is a noun, not an adjective, as you have used it.
Thirdly, you wrote "To say Walsh is "overly aggressive" while being in the company of thugs and violent criminals is completely absurd.".... I'm puzzled by this comment, sir. Are you suggesting that all those peole in that studio with him are "thungs and violent criminals?"
Fourth, when you wrote "But Tricky Dick made some reasonable points, among which that Walsh is annoying. I can buy that. He actually annoys me too. Some of these cop shows are good, but too many cop shows sets fear into people, and tells reasonable people that there is a major crime problem in America that need to be addressed in some other way than trying to deal with a few bad guys in a one hour Fear Show.".... What the hell does that mean?
FInally, you're welcomed.

RAT said...

.... hmmm sounds like he's copping to being a criminal.... maybe someone needs to call DHS to carry his ass off to the gulag in Turkey

truthiness said...

DICK and RAT. You two remind me of James Carville and Mary Matalin.
Why don't you two just get a room and be done with it.

Outraged Richard: I completely agree with you, but you are trying to use logic and reason with two people who are, putting it politely, real know it alls who won't ever admit they are wrong (especially RAT). They are entitled to their opinion, no matter how ridiculous it is. Just move on. It's not worth it.

RAT said...

yeah, that's it.

RAT said...

oh... does that mean I get to be James Carville? Thank you, thank you, thank you. You are too kind.

truthiness said...

"Mothwoman
First, thank you for the comparison to Mary Matalin, I know that she is favorite in your household, so I consider it high praise."

DICK, I'm had enough of your trying to imply that you know who I am. The fact that you keep referring to me as a woman is proof that you don't know have a clue to my identity, much less what goes on in my household.

I think it's interesting that you keep dropping hints that you know m y identity, but you have completely ignored the fact that RAT has been outed as one of two people named on Duvalies. Maybe this means you are friends with RAT, I don't know and I don't care, but enough already. I don't care who you are why do care who I am?

If you are so sure that you know my identity then go ahead and out me. Otherwise, cut the crap. It's tiresome, childish, immature and boorish.

RAT said...

Boorish..... Dick you have been spaked by mothwoman.... I leave that imagery to you, also.

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Mothwoman:
How do you know Dick and I not the same people. .... Hell, maybe you and I are the same people..... maybe the whole blogosphere is being written by one person and your the only person who doesn't know?

RAT said...

um.... make that Dick has been spanked by Mothwoman.... I guess that would make her a ..... well, you know